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    Post by Ionut on February 13th 2010, 20:45

    I did 80 at 1 day and i need some pvp/pve talents. Give me some sugestions if is posible.


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    Re: Talents

    Post by Elmajico on February 13th 2010, 21:11

    destruction i guess... tho wtb affliction fixed <3


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    Re: Talents

    Post by Jess <3 on February 14th 2010, 05:22

    PVE, if u know how to keep all your spells up, go afliction. great DoTs and if u die, its possible to kill the enemy for the dots after ur dead. except ur a pala and know how to cure disease etc

    if u want to play as a mage, go destruction. awesome shadowbolt crits plus shadowburn stun. and lot of more instant dmg spells

    the talent tree of the lock have a lot of customizable stuff

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    Re: Talents

    Post by Worms on February 14th 2010, 07:21

    shadowbolt on destro ? dont think so
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    Re: Talents

    Post by Jess <3 on February 14th 2010, 09:31

    FULL destrcution lock, pve-pvp spec if u have dual talent specialization. make a destruction and a affliction lock so u can try both

    http://www.wowhead.com/?talent#IZbhZE0hqrcuVsAfot

    idk how the lock plays with shadowbolt at lvl 80. but at lvl 70 i do 12-14k shadowbolt crit on bosses LEGAL way

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    Post by Fenrig on February 14th 2010, 10:02

    http://www.arenajunkies.com/talents/warlock/3_17_51/
    with some minor tweaks, if u want. Drop health funnel and get imp healthstone. And if hit is not a problem, drop suppresion and get pyroclasm. That build works in both pve and pvp
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    Re: Talents

    Post by Reza on February 14th 2010, 17:12

    destruction "Chaos Bolt"+ Demonology "Fel Domination" Best for PVP


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    Re: Talents

    Post by Reza on February 14th 2010, 17:18

    http://www.wowhead.com/?talent#IZbG0hkhbZVf0qrcuAoAcot:Amsm
    chck it this my talent


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    Re: Talents

    Post by Fenrig on February 14th 2010, 23:06

    Ur build is ok
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    Re: Talents

    Post by Reza on February 15th 2010, 01:56

    i can change 2-3/ more it


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    Re: Talents

    Post by Ionut on February 15th 2010, 02:06

    il try 1 of that when server is up, i hope will be good.


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    Post by Past on February 15th 2010, 17:08

    Fenrig wrote:http://www.arenajunkies.com/talents/warlock/3_17_51/
    with some minor tweaks, if u want. Drop health funnel and get imp healthstone. And if hit is not a problem, drop suppresion and get pyroclasm. That build works in both pve and pvp

    This is what I run with ;)
    One of the best speccs tbh, and yea I'd recommend going pyroclasm also :)
    I've noted that PvE specc works just fine in PvP also, so whatever you're good with, roll with it.

    Locks pwn in pvp anyhow =)

    I'm more interested tho if you keep yourself to a specific rotation or it differs from target to target (not accounting for halfhp targets)?
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    Re: Talents

    Post by Reza on February 19th 2010, 20:46

    now better :
    http://www.wowhead.com/?talent#IZbG0hkhbZVf0qrcuAsVcot:Aqz


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    Re: Talents

    Post by Geass on February 19th 2010, 21:01

    Reza wrote:now better :
    http://www.wowhead.com/?talent#IZbG0hkhbZVf0qrcuAsVcot:Aqz
    This is the exact build I use on my lock.
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    Post by Reza on February 19th 2010, 21:02

    yep ~ study


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    Post by Past on March 29th 2010, 10:16

    Been using this for talent build for a while now.
    Mind you, it's PvE :)

    http://www.wowhead.com/?talent#If0MZbhMh0hZVbhqrcuVoAcot

    When it comes to Shadowburn, it's rly your own choice there...you could either put one point in it or Molten Skin.

    What's great about this specc is the points put in both Mana Tap, for better raid efficiency and also ofc Suppression.

    You are free to ask me questions if there is anything you are wondering about in specific :)
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    Re: Talents

    Post by Jess <3 on March 29th 2010, 14:38

    this, idk if all talents work or some are bugged, don't have a warlock..... yet


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    Re: Talents

    Post by Geass on March 29th 2010, 19:22

    Here's a little something: get dual-talent and have a demo and a destro spec. Go demo (for master demonologist), summon imp (coz destro locks are more on fire spells) and then switch to destro (you'll keep the buff from master demonologist if they haven't fixed this yet; didn't play on lock lately).
    Master demonologist + chaos bolt (that seems to be a fire spell) :D
    Doesn't work in arena since all buffs get removed once you get in, and you can't change specs inside, but you can use it raids :D
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    Post by Past on March 29th 2010, 22:32

    Geass wrote:Here's a little something: get dual-talent and have a demo and a destro spec. Go demo (for master demonologist), summon imp (coz destro locks are more on fire spells) and then switch to destro (you'll keep the buff from master demonologist if they haven't fixed this yet; didn't play on lock lately).
    Master demonologist + chaos bolt (that seems to be a fire spell) :D
    Doesn't work in arena since all buffs get removed once you get in, and you can't change specs inside, but you can use it raids :D

    Think it's fixed, cause a mate I know used to do that but he has about the same Destro specc as me now, as it gives you the most benefits tbh. And strike that, PvP specc on second is worth it more anyway -.-

    And Jess, the specc is meant to be....PvE? I'd say it looks fine, tho Soul Leech imo is kinda a waste of talent points, since to get it you'd have skip speccing into Demonic Aegis for the improved Fel Armor (dude...you need this :S) and since it is mainly the mana procc you're aiming for (probably) you waste three talent points to get to it, and in which it only has a 30 % chance to procc. Let's say a PvE lock has about 21k mana buffed meaning 1 % = 210 x 15 = 3150 mana regen (1 % per sec for 15 secs, same principle for health regen), and that is to say if it works!

    Then the Improved Life Tap cause of the health gain...I don't know. You'll have to test it out and tell me. :P Although I'd say that it rly isn't worth it without improving Fel Armor for PvE specc, cause SP stacking can only give so much - not to mention spirit stacking, as I've seen the Affli talent setup is, despite missing the other talents aimed to get Improved Life Tap. :P I saw the specc skips past Fel Vitality (at 3/3 = +3% max mana/hp) which is also worth it...

    Nether Protection imo, is better in PvP :P so those point I'd remove and aim for something else xD

    On the other hand, I've also had a friend mention he never runs out of mana on his lock :P but I think he's Affli specced :o tho not sure, will have to check with him and see. :)
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    Post by Lynx on March 30th 2010, 00:40

    Past wrote:Been using this for talent build for a while now.
    Mind you, it's PvE :)

    http://www.wowhead.com/?talent#If0MZbhMh0hZVbhqrcuVoAcot

    When it comes to Shadowburn, it's rly your own choice there...you could either put one point in it or Molten Skin.

    What's great about this specc is the points put in both Mana Tap, for better raid efficiency and also ofc Suppression.

    You are free to ask me questions if there is anything you are wondering about in specific :)

    you dont need shadowfury for PvE :)
    Shadowburn too but have to put this point somewhere.

    And 20% of mana tap- i dont know... For me http://www.wowhead.com/?spell=54118 gives more mana. + if they ever fix it it helpful for raid

    http://www.wowhead.com/?spell=18176 depends of your gears actually. On magicWow you cant reach hit cap as caster. I had +20% hit chance before and still missed a lot. But since http://www.wowhead.com/?spell=47220 will never work here there ids no better place to put 3 talent points for PvE

    PvE destro (MagicWow special): http://www.wowhead.com/?talent#IcZbG0h0hZVbhqrcuVsAf0t:0Tz
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    Post by Past on March 30th 2010, 19:52

    Lynx wrote:
    Past wrote:Been using this for talent build for a while now.
    Mind you, it's PvE :)

    http://www.wowhead.com/?talent#If0MZbhMh0hZVbhqrcuVoAcot

    When it comes to Shadowburn, it's rly your own choice there...you could either put one point in it or Molten Skin.

    What's great about this specc is the points put in both Mana Tap, for better raid efficiency and also ofc Suppression.

    You are free to ask me questions if there is anything you are wondering about in specific :)

    you dont need shadowfury for PvE :)
    Shadowburn too but have to put this point somewhere.

    And 20% of mana tap- i dont know... For me http://www.wowhead.com/?spell=54118 gives more mana. + if they ever fix it it helpful for raid

    http://www.wowhead.com/?spell=18176 depends of your gears actually. On magicWow you cant reach hit cap as caster. I had +20% hit chance before and still missed a lot. But since http://www.wowhead.com/?spell=47220 will never work here there ids no better place to put 3 talent points for PvE

    PvE destro (MagicWow special): http://www.wowhead.com/?talent#IcZbG0h0hZVbhqrcuVsAf0t:0Tz

    Yep, true. I switched my specc the same day after looking at Jess's talent build setup, so the one you linked "Magic-wow special" is exactly the same as mine. I've been playing around with Affli aswell, as I miss it alot. QQ T_T
    But the thing is, I've found Shadowfury to be VERY handy in raids. You don't know how many times I've managed to save my own ass or someone elses ass using it -.-;

    Oh and about improved soul leech...read the below->
    "Target dummy rotation while hit-capped gives around 85%-90% uptimefrom just the warlock alone (will be lower in real fights beause of running and spell variety, but then you hopefully have other people proc'ing it too)."
    So if as you state, locks can't be hitcapped, this skill rly isn't the ultimate solution :O but it's good if you're thinking of other players in the raid besides yourself.
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    Re: Talents

    Post by Geass on March 30th 2010, 20:47

    For pvp wouldn't it be good to be destro but have soul link (if works on magic ofc) and master summoner (that means you have fel domination too) so you could get a second pet out fast if the first one dies or replace him to make a sudden change of tactic?
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    Post by Past on March 30th 2010, 23:08

    Geass wrote:For pvp wouldn't it be good to be destro but have soul link (if works on magic ofc) and master summoner (that means you have fel domination too) so you could get a second pet out fast if the first one dies or replace him to make a sudden change of tactic?

    I am destro with Master Summoner + Fel Domination ;) works superb in arenas.
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    Post by Reza on March 31st 2010, 04:47

    all have Master Summoner + Fel Domination
    and Destro talent
    i use it to :X
    the best talent for arena


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    Post by Geass on March 31st 2010, 10:01

    Past wrote:
    I am destro with Master Summoner + Fel Domination ;) works superb in arenas.

    Not that superb when you're against the famous pala-warr combo, am i rite? :D

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